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  The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

  by EdenOne in

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  as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

  i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

  and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

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  never a jw

  @vidquin This cannot be called circular reasoning either, just plain stupid.

  ...why my reasoning is not circular reasoning, because I say it's not.
  
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  Hypocrisy of the governing body & abuse of J.W.'s

  by The Searcher in

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  here is what the present "faithful & discreet slave" spewed out just a few years ago:.

  w06 3/15 p. 24 par.

  12 “each one will carry his own load” - "the source of pay and the location of the employment also enter into the picture.

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  Well, is it possible that by not selling to a church the Watchtower get sued for discrimination based on religious beliefs. I think that can be a good loophole they can use. Same could be said of the brother or sister who refuses to paint a church. However the brother's pockets are not as deep as those of the Watchtower. Therefore a stronger case can be made to defend the Watchtower when it sells real estate to other churches, especially in a country as litigious as the U.S.
  
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  How do we know JWs are wrong and how do we convince others JWs are wrong: logic versus persuasion

  by slimboyfat in

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  we like to think we are logical and have good reasons for for our beliefs.

  no more so than when it comes to our reasons for rejecting the truth claims of jws.

  we reject their version of history, such as the date of the fall of jerusalem, because it doesn't agree with the historical evidence.

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  logic versus persuasion

  It's like saying Honda original parts versus Honda Civic.

  You may want to compare apples to apples.
  
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  The problem of sex (or why I'm not an atheist)

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i write this under the shadow of the walls of saint jorge's castle in lisbon, two very bored jws are standing just five metres away from me with a literature cart .... in my journey away from jwism i accepted evolution as a fact.

  i also became anti-religion, agnostic and apatheist.

  and, while i lean towards the persuasion of the atheist arguments, there are a few reasons that make it difficult for me to completely discard the notion of an intelligent origin of life.

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  never a jw

  Just recently I had to discard the idea of God's intelligent design altogether because for every puzzling and wonderful design such as sexual reproduction you find a myriad of other processes in nature where intelligent design does not fit (i.e. evolution). The only way to assert God's I.D. or God's intervention, you have to follow the Christian methodology:

  • I pray to God for something to happen.
  • It happens.
  • Therefore God.

  To maintain the belief in a personal God the believer is forced to ignore all the prayers that went unheard. In other words, he selects the instances that appear to support his arguments, while he ignores all the instances that don't support his argument. And you don't do that when you take an objective approach. Similarly, in order to claim I.D. you have to provide consistency, either all I.D. or no I.D at all.
  

  The only way I can fit God is at the beginning of space/time/matter when He "subjected" all matter to inviolable and eternal laws of physics, that not even he interferes with.
  
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  "If the Earth were just a little bit further from or closer to the Sun, we would all freeze or burn"

  by Island Man in

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  i'm sure we've all heard this argument by theists employing the fine-tuning argument.

  are you aware, however, of exactly how much this "little bit" really is?

  theists would have us think that the slightest change in the distance would have drastic implications for survivability.

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  What a lousy creator, it took him billions upon billions of attempts to finally get it right. Think about all those planets in the universe that were part of God's failed attempts to produce the ideal environment for life.
  
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  Dear beloved, Does your heart feel for the motherless?

  by Colinconfused in

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  greetings to you and your family.

  i am mrs. amadou gloria, a widow to late mr. greg amadou; i am 56 years old, suffering from pancreatic cancer, my condition is really bad and it is quite obvious that i will not live for a very long time according to my doctors but i strongly believe in god and not the doctors and if it is the will of god that i will die, then so shall it be.nevertheless i am willing to donate the sum of 1,700.000.00 us dollars for you to help widows and the less privileged in the rural and urban areas and to carry out charity works, my promise to god almighty is to help the poor people and i hope you have the kind of heart and ability to help others that is of needs, if so please do not hesitate to indicate to me, your interest.

  i wait to see your response, write me for more discussion [email protected] my regards, madam gloria.

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  I strongly believe in God and not the doctors

  What's the point of going to the doctors. Just pray, and if it's the will of God, you will live a long life to do all kinds of charitable works. If God decides to take you, then I am sure HE will figure out how best use your money, just pray for HIS assistance after your death.
  
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  Help Please - Finding It Hard Adjusting To The Real World

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.

  im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..

  born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.

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  never a jw

  Never been in your shoes, but I think it's too early to expect the levels of happiness and comfort you had before. your world was gradually, but totally shattered. It's going to take time to make new friends and create new healthy bonds with other people who have never been in a cult. Perhaps some here will suggest Steve Hassan's books to reinforce that you are doing the right thing, but also to get rid of the guilt induced by the cult mentality.

  Stay strong for your own and your daughter's sake.
  
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  Why A Divine Being is Possible

  by looter in

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  2. friends

  now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

  and we always here of how it had a beginning.

  but really what could have begun it?

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  I believe he has always been in existence since the dawn of time. But I do have a propose. Maybe he created himself overtime from a weaker version? That's just a speculation and we won't know until we all die.

  Looter,

  You are brilliant!! I really underestimated you. I kept thinking that you were a believer using irrational arguments to convert ex-believers. But now that I got the divine spark in my brain I realized that what you really are is a non-believer posing as a believer trying to show how silly, irrational and...well, giving our current knowledge of the universe, how ridiculous the argumentation of believers is. What you really want is current believers to feel embarrassed so they can research the subject a little deeper and inevitably become non-believers. Absolutely brilliant brother!!!
  
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  Donald Henderson - The man who helped rid the world of smallpox has died

  by cantleave in

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  http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleno/46860/title/epidemiologist-who-helped-eradicate-smallpox-dies/&utm_campaign=newsletter_ts_the-scientist-daily_2016&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=33275284&_hsenc=p2anqtz-9bwx8_kneyimjlvwzcorr4qyim6ujqm0ya14vzgfitt58quom9ptxwoenygpqnsw-xb6osphaq7xuvdqgbf1vvjf5xoq&_hsmi=33275284.

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  A contributor dies, 7 parasites still alive.
  
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  Are the Elders harder on Women

  by Steel in

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  2. experiences

  i was having a discussion with an old friend last night.

  her parents are divorced and his mother never became “one of jehovah witnesses “ .

  long story short she claims elders are generally hardier on women than men.

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  never a jw

  Yes I have heard of elders who get hard-on women, who are not their wives. They rarely or never get hard-on their wives.